Всегда ли повреждение процессора от статического разряда проявляется на процессоре?

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James Lovebirch

Я купил использованный процессор на eBay, и после того, как человек отправил его, мне сказали, чтобы я осторожно открывал коробку, потому что она упакована в печатную газету в коробке. Нет антистатического пакета или надлежащей защиты для булавок. Излишне говорить, что я не был счастлив. Это еще не пришло.

Даже если процессор сразу же проверит нормально, возможно ли какое-то повреждение от электростатического разряда, которое не сразу проявится, даже в сценарии со стресс-тестом на 100% использования? Может быть, у него будет менее полезная жизнь или он станет менее стабильным с течением времени, даже если я позабочусь об этом, или что-то в этом роде?

Возможно ли, чтобы процессор страдал от электростатического разряда при транспортировке с этим типом упаковки, или только когда коробка открыта и процессор обработан человеком?

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DrZoo

Newspaper is a good alternative to anti-static bags if you don't have any laying around. If the seller has it wrapped good and protected well from bouncing around, I think you will be ok.

The fact that the seller, from eBay, immediately warned you may point out that they already damaged the CPU and are trying to sell it, then blame the damage on the shipping or the way you handled it. This seems of something typical an eBay seller would do, especially if they have very few reviews.

I don't think the shipping itself is going to ruin the CPU, and you taking it out of the box shouldn't hurt it either. The only way you will cause damage is if you're purposely rubbing your hands along some nylon, trying to create enough electricity to run your home. Or if you happen to break out your Van de Graaff generator or Tesla coils, you could cause some problems there too.

I've heard that ESD damage can be slow and gradual, but I've never handled any parts while using an anti-static strap, etc. In my opinion if it's ESD damaged, it won't work from the start.

Люди живут или умирают по рейтингу на eBay, все, что я купил, было на 100%, как указано, и прибыло в отличном состоянии, кроме того, на eBay есть политика защиты покупателей. Если у продавца высокие рейтинги, вы можете ожидать, что товар прибудет так, как указано, если он прибудет, он сделает это хорошо, чтобы сохранить свой рейтинг как можно выше. Moab 8 лет назад 1
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James Lovebirch

As far as wrapping in paper goes, these people seem to have a low opinion of it. It seems that it would come down to whether or not the paper or ink is laced with some sort of conductive metal like lead. I would imagine even at best though paper would never create a Faraday cage like ES bags are designed to, so it's definitely shaking hands with the devil to attempt it.

http://www.computing.net/answers/hardware/inexpensive-alternative-to-antistatic-bags/66893.html

Check out the posts by weeble42 on this reddit. He doesn't get into his credentials, but it sounds like he manages and monitors many chips perhaps for his job, and he has the equipment to see irregularities in the electrical properties of these things from such damage. His opinion is that useful life of a component can be shortened by this sort of abuse even if it works out of the gate, and he also gets into how little voltage it takes to ruin a chip.

https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/1wnsmq/ideas_on_how_to_safely_ship_a_cpu/

Finally, I found this paper from Compliance Engineering Annual Reference Guide. Understanding this fully is a little above my pay grade, but it corroborates weeble42's assertion that damage does not have to be immediately evident, and it indicates that properly protecting components from ESD in shipment is a difficult problem for the manufacturers.

www.pmtgb.com/uploads/media/ESD_Myths_and_the_latency_controversy_01.pdf

The people who say not to worry, including the seller, all have the same basic argument. Let me paraphrase the seller, "well, I've never taken any precautions and even been abusive to my chips and never had an issue". This is not convincing at all because you may have just never connected the dots on that motherboard that mysteriously burnt out after 1 year that you had once, etc. People whose business it is to deliver working chips all seem to take the problem very seriously.

I'm satisfied with what I found but I definitely won't mind more input.

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